70, I am not prone to repressing, so I am of course aware that there are disturbed, perverse and perverse criminals among the locals.

70, I am not prone to repressing, so I am of course aware that there are disturbed, perverse and perverse criminals among the locals.

Oberon Sun., Feb. 7th 2016 10:56 am

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@ higgs70, I am not prone to repressing, so I am of course aware that there are disturbed, perverse and perverse criminals among the locals. Therefore – taking and storing fingerprints of all (!) Refugees who step on Austrian soil, even if they are just passing through. NO largely avoidable import of alleged (!) Violent criminals, …..

Oberon Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 10:57 am

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….Moral thugs (auxiliary expression!) And other rabble. To the crown. Admittedly, it formulates sensationally, but at least it brings politically incorrect news, which one cannot say about some media. And that bothers me. * Thanks for the information from the press office of the Austrian executive. Learned something again.

Independent Sun., Feb. 7th. 2016 11:57 am

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Your announcements are funnier than a Sunday matinee. First they write from the police, then from the court and then we are with the convict. For them there may be no difference, nevertheless, there are worlds in between. The police work without advertising and without publicity. In the courts, the public is always there, whether they like it or not, mind you

Independent Sun., Feb. 7th 2016 12:07 pm

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speak of official crimes. Then we have already condemned him and everything is the same. Now we have all laws from MRK, B-VG, STPO, STVG through. The media is not interested in the victim, but only in the perpetrator. And EVERYONE can go to court every day. The victims are protected by an adversarial interrogation. So and now you can continue to dump your trash.

higgs70 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 1:40 pm

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Don’t fool yourself, it is better to be non-partisan, you brought the court and the convicted into play, not me. What the media coverage of a crime (immediately afterwards) has to do with a public court hearing that only takes place months or years later cannot yet be explained. The fact that the media was only interested in the perpetrator, not the victim, was impressively refuted by the Kampusch case and that I was able to amuse you I am pleased, you know, is like Shakespeare’s “The fool is always right” ;-))

higgs70 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 1:46 pm

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@ 2222First of all: The storage of fingerprints opens the door to the surveillance state because sooner or later it will also apply to residents. And I don’t want to, because you can get in there quickly but never get out again. But of course you can see it differently. Second: Of course, you don’t want to import the atrocities you mentioned. Nevertheless, we will not be able to avoid it completely, especially since no one has entered “Sittenstrolch” or “Rapist” in their passports and how do you want to check at the border whether someone becomes violent here later?expert thesis And third: Please do so.

Independent Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 13:59

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Quote “about 130 convictions for rape and only a fraction of the offenses are reported in the media. Often because the perpetrator is fleeting and it is the wanted”. I only replied to your mail. Cherries are not apples, because Kampusch made it into the media himself, didn’t have to.

higgs70 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 14:24

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ok, maybe I should have expressed myself differently: “only a fraction of the acts are reported in the media – immediately after the act. If so, it is often because they are used for a search ….” I hope the misunderstanding has been resolved.

Oberon Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 14:35

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@ higgs70, why does Ö become a surveillance state when the law specifically stipulates that only the fingerprints of refugees are stored? That’s why you don’t have to extend this security to local residents. Concerning. Criminals among the asylum seekers. You are trying to ridicule it just because you are against storing it. Sure, is not in any passport, if any …

Oberon Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 14:38

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“Profession: rapist”, but it is easier for our executive to monitor people who have already been treated by the identification service more precisely. If THAT is not an advantage! Anyone who ends up with us in Austria can become violent, but it shouldn’t be when they enter the country. That’s a difference. Deport asylum seekers who have committed criminal offenses for the first time in Austria, which will not be easy without papers.

Independent Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 3:12 pm

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it doesn’t matter, I’m sensitive because I can’t follow. One is state principles and the other is laws, but others are always responsible and not authorized to issue instructions 🙂

higgs70 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 4:48 pm

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@ 2222You are right, it does not open the door to the surveillance state, Austria is already a surveillance state. In the times of the old Austrian constitutional state, a simple principle applied to the police and the judiciary: a specific suspicion is investigated by the police, and then the court decides whether an indictment should be brought. The times have changed. The suspicion is replaced by a new term: “risk”. The dogmas of the new security policy are: “Something can happen anywhere” and “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”. Everyone is a potential risk. Everyone therefore has to prove that they are harmless. The presumption of innocence is replaced by the presumption of suspicion. Biometric ID cards are already compulsory here, and are now even considering taking financial fingerprints. (Http://diepresse.com/home/politik/innenpolitik/4740843/Finanz-will-Fingerabdrucke-haben) And not because of the registration of refugees, in principle I am an opponent of it. But as I said, most of them see it differently anyway. What the heck, the train has left.

giuseppeverdi Wed., Feb. 10, 2016 8:24 am

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22222 give it up. She doesn’t rest until she gets it right. she is always right, whether she is right or not, did you understand that? Otherwise just look at the chat history to see who had the last argument there. This is not only true for you, but always!

higgs70 Wed, Feb 10, 2016 9:32 am

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And ad hominem grins forever when there is a lack of arguments. But knowing that in a forum, that is that when you write something you have to expect an answer. If you want to share something without being contradicted, just keep writing letters to the editor in the Krone … ;-))

giuseppeverdi Wed., Feb 10 .. 2016 2:01 pm

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What did I tell you? She must have the last word here too. This woman is sick and believes that she always knows everything that is on it and, above all, she believes that she knows more than everyone else and is always right.

giuseppeverdi Wed., Feb 10. 2016 2:03 pm

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See also below. Again – at this point in time – the last posting. That is already chronically ill!

higgs70 Wed, Feb 10, 2016 11:11 PM

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It’s just possible that delusions don’t fall into the “pumperlgsund” category. Well, that’s how everyone has to wear their pinkie. Don’t forget your pills, Schlingerl! I’ve already taken mine ;-))

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Independent Sat., Feb. 6, 2016 7:48 pm

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I have a lot of Syrians around me. Today I learned from a supervisor that the men who are quartered in a house are already allowed to bring their families to the home. Well, so much for the honesty of the refugee policy. The population is being lied to and lied to. As it was said at the beginning, no costs, now MRD!

Rigi999 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 16:57

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Our politicians, the joke of the century !!! Incredible, pure traitors to the people !!! A creeping infiltration through Islam (90% criminals) and foreigners !!! A crime against our future generations who are born into this shitty world!

christian95 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 5:26 pm

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The man from Gambia who allegedly (the presumption of innocence applies) suffocated the young American woman lived unnoticed in the refugee home in Vienna’s 3rd district. He was already “noticed” in Germany and fled to us. What did you do with our beautiful and once so peaceful country ???

Roy2010 Sun., Feb. 07 .. 2016 7:47 am

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Take fingerprints and don’t save them, what an idiotic attitude? Smart shit!

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christian95 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 12:41

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If that’s not a radical change of course? EVERYONE was welcomed in the fall and 100,000 were allowed into the country unchecked. They were greeted personally by the Federal President. Now all of a sudden Faymann wants to send EVERYONE back to Turkey immediately … When HC Strache asked for this in autumn, he was insulted as “agitator”.

christian95 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 12:45

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I’ll stick with it: Because of this mass Islamization, the terrorist threat has never been higher than it is now, the costs are gigantic, the consequences for our children are terrible …

christian95 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 13:51

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Who still remembers? How was Orban (H) abused by our government (and the army of our left-green do-gooders) for his fence construction. Whoever chooses a Faymann and Mitterlehner cannot expect an Orban.

strizzi1949 Sat, Feb 06th 2016 6:17 pm

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Yawn !!!!!

christian95 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 6:51 pm

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Will the many sexually harassed women (and children) at train stations and swimming pools see and say – “Yawn !!!?

higgs70 Sat., Feb. 06. 2016 8:20 pm

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Dear, cynicism. And not even funny. No, they won’t yawn, any more than children in the Mediterranean yawned before they drowned. But it says something about your attitude, to lump everyone together to stir up a mood against refugees.

christian95 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 09:08

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With us the parents are punished if they put their children in such danger. In current politics they are even rewarded – what nonsense! The Interior Ministry publishes “an increase in criminal offenses” against refugees, but withholds their offenses.

higgs70 Sun., Feb. 07. 2016 09:58

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Yes, the increase, but not the crime itself. But you would probably like it if the mood got even more heated. And when the first death occurs and the first stab-in-the-back legends and the Austrians hit each other hama finally problems again, because now we don’t have any, don’t we? It’s bitter when you weren’t admitted to an asylum but only born there, sometimes you feel like you are so strange.

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A refugee tragedy of unbelievable proportions was discovered in Austria on Thursday: the police came across numerous corpses in a truck parked on the Ostautobahn (A4) in Burgenland. In the meantime it has been established that 71 people have died in the truck, including four children. The police have arrested three suspected smugglers.

The approximately 7.5 ton truck, a refrigerated vehicle, was parked in a breakdown bay. When the police arrived, decomposition liquid was already emerging from the loading area, reported State Police Director Hans Peter Doskozil. The vehicle should have been parked on the A4 on Wednesday. Colleagues from the Parndorf Motorway Inspection had informed them on Thursday at 11.30 a.m. The truck was discovered by an Asfinag employee. He was busy mowing the A4 when he noticed the vehicle. “He noticed that it was dripping out there,” said an Asfinag spokesman. The employee had “reacted correctly and quickly and informed the police”. Asfinag closed a lane in the affected area.

© Newsinfografik: Meridee Stein On Thursday dozens of dead refugees were found in a truck on the A4. The tragedy is just one of many that happen every day around the world

18:45 | First successful searches

The first successful search was made the day after the discovery of 71 dead refugees in a refrigerated truck on the eastern motorway (A4) in Burgenland: on Friday afternoon, four suspects were in police custody in Hungary. Because of the risk of escape and blackout, a request was made for custody.

16:50 | Niessl: “Burgenland mourns”

Burgenland Governor Hans Niessl was concerned about the refugee drama on the Ostautobahn (A4). At a press conference, Niessl spoke of an “unbelievable tragedy” that had never occurred in this form in Austria or Burgenland: “Burgenland is in mourning.” He called for a five-point program to combat smuggling.

He supported the demand from Federal Chancellor Werner Faymann for a fair distribution quota in Europe and from Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner, who said there had to be initial reception centers at the EU’s external border. “But I’ve heard these words for a long time,” said Niessl.

However, some EU countries would not adhere to the introduction of a European quota. Vienna took in “more asylum seekers than Poland” and the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia more than France. Other countries like Slovakia have “almost not taken in” refugees.

“This situation in Austria, in Europe and here in Burgenland is no longer acceptable,” said Niessl. The five-point program includes some already known demands: In addition to a hundred additional police officers for Burgenland and an assistance mission from the armed forces to support the police, there is a need for more veil searches in the border region and temporary border controls as well as “zero tolerance against the smuggling mafia”.

© Newsinfografik: Meridee Stein So many people worldwide fell victim to the flight

For example, if you develop the appropriate concepts for temporary border controls, “then neither truck traffic will collapse nor passenger traffic,” Niessl countered the argument of long waiting times at the borders. Harsher penalties for smugglers are “overdue”.

If you implement these five measures, he is “convinced that the likelihood that similar cases will occur is a significantly lower” than if you continue to watch. The governor also thanked the emergency services who had worked under the most difficult conditions: “Here, mental and physical limits are not only reached, but also exceeded.”

16:47 | Autopsy is in progress

The Viennese forensic medicine department has started the autopsy of the 71 bodies. It is still unclear where these are carried out, how many forensic doctors are involved and what the rough organizational processes look like.